Calling the credit card companies

It's no secret that the way to get the interest on a credit card reduced is to ask. The companies won't do it out of their sense of good will or from any sense of right and wrong. Would they be in the business of charging over 30% per year if they were?

So I finally got up the stuff to start making calls.

First I called the Bank of America. This card, incidentally, started out as a Wachovia card and had excellent interest rates. Then it was sold to another bank, and then to Bank of America. Now the interest is somewhere around 27%. My payments are always on time and always more than the minimum. I did nothing to "deserve" this ridiculous interest rate.

I tried one customer service line and got voice mail options that did not include any for changing interest rate and did not include ever speaking to a real person. I tried several of the options and just went endlessly into voice mail options, none useful for my purposes. So I hung up. I found another number for them and called that. Got exactly the same thing. So I went online and sent them a message through their message form. The information on the website said they would respond within 12 hours. That was two days ago. And of course I have gotten no response. So I am nowhere with that card, yet.

Then I called citiCards. I spoke to a real person. He talked fast and with an accent I did not recognize (not Indian). He reduced my rate by ten percent, from 23.74 to 13.74%. That's a victory. At the same time I somehow signed up for credit protection that I do not want. I can't cancel it until I actually see it on a bill, and you can be sure I will cancel it then. I wish that I had a tape of that phone call because I had so much trouble understanding what was happening that I kept asking him to repeat and repeat. Ultimately I couldn't take it any more so I did not try to cancel that credit protection thing on the phone. A victory, nonetheless. A reduced rate.

I called Chase. I have two cards, one personal, one business, with Chase - both Amazon cards. For some reason I have not been getting my business statements and I had charged something a while back on it and thought that I had paid it off. Just a few days ago I learned, from a phone call, that in fact I still owed something and that it had not been paid in over 90 days. Well, that sucks. I made a payment then but of course that 90 days is bad. I also made one late payment on the personal card, a few days late, this month. My head was just not on straight and I got it done late. Because of the 90 day thing I understood that the interest rate on that card could not be reduced. But I was really irritated to learn that the personal one could not be changed either because of one payment a few days late. After years of paying on time and more than the minimum. The guy said I could try again in a couple of months. I said "sure" in a sarcastic tone and hung up. So no victory there.

I will call about my paypal card today. I forget what bank has it now - like the others, it has changed several times. I have a couple of cards that I have not used at all - Ikea and Dillards - and maybe I can get those rates reduced, but I suspect not. They probably like to see some activity first.

So far, then, one for three. I have an idea about Bank of America. These systems all seem to work the same, and most of them say you can talk to a real person by pressing zero. Even though the BofA operator does not say this I suspect it's true. So I am going to try that.

EDIT: October 28, 2007

I called the BofA number again. This time I pressed 0, even though this was not an option offered to me. And it worked. I got a real person. I told him what I wanted to do, to lower the interest rate. He said that the people to call for that are not working today, and he gave me the number to call tomorrow. In the meantime he tried to talk me into opening a line of credit at a lower interest rate so I could move all of my credit card debt there. I wasn't going to apply for that without thinking about it, so I said no thank you.

EDIT: October 30, 2007

I called the new number for BofA. I spoke to a person who was actually personable, like a real person. For those of your with B of A cards who want to try this, call 1-800-718-6135.

She reduced my percentage rate to just under 25% from just under 29%. Not much of a drop. She also suggested that I apply for a "Gold Option Line of Credit", which I did (she transferred me to someone else). The line of credit was denied. It sounds like a better option than a credit card for those who qualify: unsecured, up to $50,000, no annual fees, no prepayment penalty. It is for a set term, like a mortgage.

Prosper Days

I will be going to the Prosper Days with a press pass. So I will be recording my experiences and what I learn from it here.

That will be February 25 and 26, 2008. You can read about it here.

A prosperous trip?

I just read of "Prosper Days" on the prosper website. Prosper is the place where real people, like me, can loan money to real people, like you. Or get a loan. I have made three small loans so far and am happy with the regular little payments coming in. A lender can do much better here than with a savings account, if she manages loans to minimize risk. The basic rule there is to look at the credit rating and make small loans. I am guessing that at Prosper Days there is a lot more information that can help me make the most of what I can lend.

For the buyer there is certainly a plus, too. You can ask for a loan at a much lower rate of interest than you are already paying on credit cards and other loans. And it's nice knowing that average joes like me are getting the money instead of money-grubbing institutions.

So I am considering attending this conference. It's in San Francisco and is just a day and a half. That would mean two nights' lodging there, not so bad, and registration.

Tough going

I worried that when I had to start making house payments I would find it to be quite a struggle. That is, in fact, the case. I don't yet know if I can manage it on my present income with my present expenses, because there have been extraordinary expenses, mostly related to the move. It all needs to shake down so I can see what's what more clearly.

On the plus side, I am eating out a lot less often than I was before. This because I have a nice new kitchen that is easy to use, has plenty of space, and has appliances that work. I am especially delighted to have a working oven. Oh, the cooking that goes on! I am quite savvy about making meals cheaply, too.

I just requested a change to my house loan. When approved I will be making two payments a month instead of one. And thereby I will shave two years off the loan and save about $12,000 in interest. This won't help me on a daily basis but it's no harder than paying once a month so it's clearly the right thing to do.

costs

For my foodstamp challenge I am accumulating some approximate prices. Using receipts from various stores I can approximate:
(prices are not necessarily the cheapest possible)
5 # white bread flour: $3.50
2# bag white rice: $2
1# bag beans:
red: 1.05
white: 1.05
lima: 1.80
kidney: 1.35
great northern: 1

1# bag lentils: 1.05
1# bag split peas: .85
3-pk, 19 oz ea, tofu (Costco): 3.15
12-pk stewed tomatoes (Costco): 7.50
10# large yellow onions (Costco): 3.30
lge bag broccoli (Costco): 3.80
large box mushrooms (Costco): 4.50

As I get more prices I will enter them into this post, to keep them together and make this whole thing less boring to read.

The recipes for the food stamp challenge

I have developed a list of dinner menus in a general form:

Red beans and rice (one batch = 4 meals)
Noodles & stirfry vegs(2 meals)
Lentil soup & bread (3 meals)
Pizza & salad (2)
Ratatoulle (3)
Stuffed bell peppers & salad (2)
Black beans and rice (4)
Potato soup & bread (3)
Garbanzo beans & bread (3)
Split pea soup $ bread (3)
Chili & salad & bread (3)

That's 32 meals. The number of meals is, of course, approximate.

Lunches

Red pepper grilled sandwich (1)
Vegetable soup & bread (2)
Pizza (2)
Tofu stir fry w/rice (2)
Split pea soup (3)
Rice mix (jambalaya?) (2)
Chili & crackers (3)
Stuffed cabbage (2)
(need more)

Breakfast items:

Potatoes
Oatmeal
Pancakes
Toast & cashew butter

The Foodstamp Challenge

I am getting ready to try the foodstamp challenge. What this means:

I will attempt to feed myself on approximately three dollars a day, the average amount that food stamps pay for an average recipient. I recognize that:

1. Foodstamp recipients often have other ways to obtain food. It's likely that most of them do not rely solely on food stamps.
2. I am educated, have lots of free time, and I not only know how to cook but I like to cook. I suspect that most foodstamp recipients do not have my depth of knowledge of nutrition and of cooking, and that most do not have ample free time and energy to devote to providing food. Therefore I do not count myself as an example that actual food stamp recipients can easily follow - although I do hope that some would be able to.
3. The challenge, then, for me, is to find out if I can live on much less than I do now, and do so healthily.

The rules for my particular challenge:

1. I will spend $100 for one month's worth of food. I decided on a month because I am only one person and it is more difficult to purchase food in small quantities at a good price than in larger quantities. A month also allows me to make the same dish once for several meals. I will eat one meal and freeze the others.

2. I won't purchase staples such as herbs as part of the $100. This type cost would be spread out over many months as this type product lasts a long time.

I will begin when I have developed a list of recipes and a shopping list that is reasonably accurate in terms of quantities and costs.